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Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:48 pm
by DinoDoc
This roster used to be available. It's been awhile since I had the desire to tinker with the list but the updates released recently have rekindled my desire. Am I simply missing it or was it removed for maintenance or some other reason?

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:59 pm
by shaggai
Only removed as it was based on the old space marine file and when that went away, it takes other things such as the Tyrant's legion. Once FW updates said information for 6E (hopefully via FAQ and not by a v2 update) it will be restored.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:58 pm
by DinoDoc
Thank you for the prompt response.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:57 am
by Mr_Rose
What in the tyrants legion list needs FAQing exactly? If it's just about chapter tactics, Forge World covered that in their general chapter tactics PDF.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:19 am
by Fantasticmrfox77
As far as I know only the chapter tactics for astral claws marines (and therefore tyrants legion units as specified in the tactics pdf) have changed....so why do we have to wait for a FAQ before it's restored? Red Scorpions are there and the situation is exactly the same for them...

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:27 am
by DinoDoc

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:04 pm
by Fantasticmrfox77
Thanks Dino.

My previous post was before the updates came out (but after the chapter tactics were released).

Does anyone now have any further idea when we'll see the new list implemented. I'd do it myself, but I don't have the knowledge to do so.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:30 pm
by Fantasticmrfox77
Sorry to "nag"...but is there any update or even an "approximate" time scale to this....

Right now I paid for software that I can no longer use. Also....if things are going to get taken away, it'd be better if we new this before applying any updates that appear.

I appreciate all the hardwork you guys do, honestly I do, but right now I am back to using pen and paper and that's a major disappointment. I'd feel better if someone could let me know it's being worked on.

Hell - I 'd do it myself if I understood how to! Please take pity on me and let me know someone's working on it even if there's no expected arrival date!

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:51 pm
by DinoDoc
Given shaggai's response about hoping any update was done via FAQ rather than a v2 release, I'd give it a month after it's release date to start "nagging." It's essentially a codex release after all.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:12 pm
by jlong05
Fantasticmrfox77 wrote:Sorry to "nag"...but is there any update or even an "approximate" time scale to this....

Right now I paid for software that I can no longer use. Also....if things are going to get taken away, it'd be better if we new this before applying any updates that appear.

I appreciate all the hardwork you guys do, honestly I do, but right now I am back to using pen and paper and that's a major disappointment. I'd feel better if someone could let me know it's being worked on.

Hell - I 'd do it myself if I understood how to! Please take pity on me and let me know someone's working on it even if there's no expected arrival date!

OMG. You didnt pay for software you cannot use. You can use it just fine as your paid for ONLY the software. You didnt pay for datafiles. Why can no one figure this simple bascic concept out. Please read your EULA from Lonewolf for a better understanding of the Army Builder application and datafiles. 

Your payment was for the software and the ABCreator tool to create your personal files.

Updates for files produced by other people are not promised by Lonewolf to users of Army Builder and are therefore aso not guarenteed.


To Answer your question though. They will be done when they are done. I cannot give a better time table as we are all volunteers with our own personal lives and jobs. Honestly, I haven't played a game of 40k in 2 years.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:32 am
by DinoDoc
jlong05 wrote:
Sorry to "nag"...but is there any update or even an "approximate" time scale to this....

Right now I paid for software that I can no longer use. Also....if things are going to get taken away, it'd be better if we new this before applying any updates that appear.

I appreciate all the hardwork you guys do, honestly I do, but right now I am back to using pen and paper and that's a major disappointment. I'd feel better if someone could let me know it's being worked on.

Hell - I 'd do it myself if I understood how to! Please take pity on me and let me know someone's working on it even if there's no expected arrival date!

OMG. You didnt pay for software you cannot use. You can use it just fine as your paid for ONLY the software. You didnt pay for datafiles. Why can no one figure this simple bascic concept out. Please read your EULA from Lonewolf for a better understanding of the Army Builder application and datafiles. 

Your payment was for the software and the ABCreator tool to create your personal files.

Updates for files produced by other people are not promised by Lonewolf to users of Army Builder and are therefore aso not guarenteed.

To Answer your question though. They will be done when they are done. I cannot give a better time table as we are all volunteers with our own personal lives and jobs. Honestly, I haven't played a game of 40k in 2 years.

:( I didn't mean to start a fight when I made the thread. Honestly, after the release of the updates I was expecting a 1-2 month lag time before I would even have begun looking for it on AB. I was also grateful for the quick response earlier.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:53 pm
by Fantasticmrfox77
Wow Jlong5. Over-reaction much?

I'm sorry you took my comment so personally. It wasn't meant that way.

Like I said before - and I will repeat for you just once....I appreciate everything the creators of the files do for us. But next time people take stuff away they could perhaps warn users before we patch/update!

And I'm sorry for asking a simple question about estimated timescale. I thought it was a fair thing to ask and did not think it would garner that kind of response. Perhaps I hit a raw nerve somewhere.

Fair question after all. A simple estimate or an "i don't know how long it'll take" would have been all that was required rather than a unnecessary lecture about licences. There really is no need to take the "OMG" route. I am not a village idiot and you do not have to talk to me as such.

(And just to correct you....I can't use the software without the datafile...it's useless to me, ergo I have paid for something I can't use - but yes I realise that's not your fault and at no point did I attribute any blame to anyone but myself for applying an "update" that I shouldn't have done - which as I said is quite naturally "disappointing". Please don't confuse disappointment with blame).

If it's you working on the particular file....I salute your efforts (AGAIN)...but if not, why comment on a thread that doesn't relate to anything you're doing....if anyone out there is prepared to give me an estimate/guesstimate or just wants to tell me that they're working on it and it IS coming...then I'd be very grateful.

But please....spare me anymore lectures about what I paid for and what I didn;t pay for. I'm already clear on that thanks!

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:06 pm
by Fantasticmrfox77
Out of interest - when is it fair to ask if someone is working on something? 1-2 months after a release....3-4 months -2 years? When?

Or does asking a simple question like that garner a hostile response too?

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:02 am
by jlong05
Fantasticmrfox77 wrote:Out of interest - when is it fair to ask if someone is working on something? 1-2 months after a release....3-4 months -2 years? When?

Or does asking a simple question like that garner a hostile response too?

Without this further derailing, my statement was to your point of buying software you can't use. You can use it, you can create your own datafiles, you choose not to. That is your choice.

My response is because many many many people come here with complaints of timeliness of the files with an assumption that they are somehow promised to them, which they are not.

As for your follow up question, it is posted and part of the FAQ. All official rules will be done. A minimum of 30 days will always be enforced, but is not a promise of files in that time. Files are provided when they are done. Not sooner.

Unfortunately there isn't much more we can give than that as available time changes for each programmer and although oneay say he is working it may take that person 3 months to complete while another programmer may be working on other stuff and taking less time.

Of you felt I overreacted to your post, please take the time to review the older threads and see just how often we answer those same questions and arguments.

Re: Tyrant's Legion?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:00 am
by Ironwing001
I hope soon the list will be done, I know everything takes time and thats to be expected, I started my Astral Claws and hope to turn them into a Tyrant's Legion army soon enough, Can't wait for the file to be updated to E-6. Also thanks for the hard work you guys do for us fans of GW, you guys Rock. :ork-smug: