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Harlequins???

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:04 am
by Homer_S
OK,

Are there more rules coming? With only the Troupe (Troops) and the Solitaire (Elite) there is no way to make a legal Allied Detachment! The Troupe lists a Transport vehicle, the Starweaver, that doesn't exist. Also, where are the Enigmas of the Black Library? Finally(?), do they replace the two distinct versions in the Eldar and Dark Eldar books?

Homer

P.S. I guess so if you believe the Interwebs: http://eldradhallett.blogspot.com/2015/ ... ature.html

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:09 am
by shaggai
I talked to LGS, only thing they seem to say was that they had no idea - they assume that a supplement was coming (harlequins only and not a larger combined eldar codex with harlequins added).

Scarier thing I found out is the belief that 40K is "done" in that it's considered that the hardbacked codices are "7th edition" - even though a great percentage come from 6E. Again, this is (hopefully) the view of a lone LGS manager...

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:55 am
by bora77
FYI - Harlequin codex (not Supplement!) is out.

Time to add a new faction dudes ;-)

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:56 pm
by Spack
Faction added to the tracker. Note that the earliest the Harlies will be in the 40k files is 30 days after codex release date, and could be longer, so don't expect them soon.

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:31 am
by bora77
Is there something I can do personally to help speed this up?

I can provide data from the Codex maybe or even help with the data stuff (never looked into this before however...).

Let me know!

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:07 am
by Spack
All new codex and supplement releases are subject to a minimum 30 day embargo. This is stated  the site home page and in the stickied posts in the forums. There is nothing that you can do to change this, just be patient.

Harlequins Rules Questions

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:27 pm
by Homer_S
OK,

If I take allied Harlequins, do I have to take a full Masque Detachment or only Formations? Harlequins are unable to fill an Allied Detachment with no HQ units.

Homer

Re: Harlequins Rules Questions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:36 am
by shaggai
Homer_S wrote:OK,

If I take allied Harlequins, do I have to take a full Masque Detachment or only Formations? Harlequins are unable to fill an Allied Detachment with no HQ units.

Homer


I take it that their main detachement isn't anything like the Legion of the Damned or Inquisition which compenasates for the lack of certain units by lumping all of their stuff into Elite (for example).

Otherwise it would have to be no to an allied detachment as paragraph two on page 12 under Force Organization and Slots - "Black boxes are compulsory selections - you must take at least this many units of the appropriate Battlefield Role to include this detachment in your army. If you cannot include the compulsory number of units, you cannot include that Detachment." So no HQ - no Allied detachment...

Re: Harlequins Rules Questions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:57 am
by Homer_S
shaggai wrote:
OK,

If I take allied Harlequins, do I have to take a full Masque Detachment or only Formations? Harlequins are unable to fill an Allied Detachment with no HQ units.

Homer



I take it that their main detachement isn't anything like the Legion of the Damned or Inquisition which compenasates for the lack of certain units by lumping all of their stuff into Elite (for example).

Otherwise it would have to be no to an allied detachment as paragraph two on page 12 under Force Organization and Slots - "Black boxes are compulsory selections - you must take at least this many units of the appropriate Battlefield Role to include this detachment in your army. If you cannot include the compulsory number of units, you cannot include that Detachment." So no HQ - no Allied detachment...

Their detachment, the Masque Detachment, is 3 Troupes, 2 Fast Attack and 1 Heavy with 0-7 Elites. I suppose you could take that as "Allied" but it is a lot of points. Alternately, you can take any of the Formations as allies, with one exception they are modest sized.

Homer

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:02 pm
by Tdub415
Unfortunately, since there is no HQ choice in the harlequin codex, you cannot take them as a Combined Arms Detachment or as an Allied Detachment. The only ways to play them are to use a Masque Detachment, any of the formations in the codex (as they are detachments in their own right), or to play unbound. Most of the formations make for fairly low cost detachments.

Re: Harlequins???

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:11 am
by Creon
Yes, There is no allied detachment. but the same effect can be gotten from a Cast of players (troop, 2 elites, one of which is a HQ-Quality psyker) and Foulchu's blade (2 FA and a HS) 1 hqish, 1 elite, 1 troop, 2 FA, and 1 heavy. Pretty darn close to a standard ally, without actually taking up the ally slot.