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Missing Units and 7th Edition Edits

#1  Postby Homer_S » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:49 pm

Hello!

The community can help us a lot. What are the 7th edition changes needed in the 40K files? Be gentle with quoting rules. Example, state "Warlords no longer have to be ICs, see page 154." Please don't list the whole rule. I'll update this post with open items:

Missing Rules
  • White Dwarf Weekly 21: Orks - Looted Wagons
  • IA4se: D-99 and Red Corsairs


7th Edition Rules
  • (pg. 119) the "Other" slot <- What does this mean and there has always been an Other slot.
  • (pg. 126) the modified allies chart <- developed, in testing
  • (pg. 124) the new Warlord table, Tactical Traits <- developed, in testing
  • (pg. 124) any model Warlord when no other Character model.


Released
  • (pp. 116-117) Support for Unbound army selection
  • (pp. 118-122) Support for Battle-forged army selection, including unlimited Detachments
  • (pp. 194-195) Daemonology as a Psychic Power category
  • (pg. 119) Lords of War
  • (pg. 124) any character model Warlord <- Chaos Daemons, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Necrons, Tyranids. Need to add the tag "UnitTags.character" and the linkset "gnWarlord" to eligible characters
  • Dataslate: Cypher <- developed, in testing
  • White Dwarf Weekly 15: Dark Eldar - Kabalite Stormsurge <- developed, in testing
  • White Dwarf Weekly 24: Imperial Knights - Gerantius <- developed, in testing


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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#2  Postby jboweruk » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:41 pm

Remove restrictions on detachments please.
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#3  Postby Homer_S » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:27 pm

jboweruk wrote:Remove restrictions on detachments please.

I appreciate you starting the list! Remember, a workaround for this is to just choose "Apocalypse" since it already removes most restrictions based on FOC.

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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#4  Postby Tdub415 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:51 pm

An option to display certain tables (warlord traits, vehicle damage table, mysterious objective table, etc...) might be nice, if easily implemented. The people I play with (myself included) are constantly forgetting books, so it would speed up games. Definitely not a make or break feature, but one that could be handy if it's not too much work
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#5  Postby Spack » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:15 pm

I can say with certainly that copying reference tables will not be part of the ab40k files. They are not intended to be used without the rules and codexes.
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#6  Postby Homer_S » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:59 am

What we can do is put the rolling table there, you will still have to look up the rules for whatever the result is. That is how Warlord Traits and Psychic Powers work now.

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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#7  Postby MFive » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:33 am

some things that came to mind

Lords of War (p.g 119)
the "Other" slot (also p.g 119)
the modified allies chart (p.g 126)
the new Warlord table, Tactical Traits (p.g 124)

EDIT: perhaps a page number to the warlord trait page for easier reference?
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#8  Postby jboweruk » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:28 pm

Homer_S wrote:
jboweruk wrote:Remove restrictions on detachments please.

I appreciate you starting the list! Remember, a workaround for this is to just choose "Apocalypse" since it already removes most restrictions based on FOC.

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Aye, I know what you are saying but it still leaves me having to manually count my units if you get my drift? As Apocalypse unfortunately doesn't show types of unit it just totally removes all restrictions except warlord. Whereas taking away the points restriction on multiple detachments and being able to add as many detachments as you like of different types would keep track of the legalities of those detachments. :)
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#9  Postby Homer_S » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:17 am

jboweruk wrote:
jboweruk wrote:Remove restrictions on detachments please.


I appreciate you starting the list! Remember, a workaround for this is to just choose "Apocalypse" since it already removes most restrictions based on FOC.

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Aye, I know what you are saying but it still leaves me having to manually count my units if you get my drift? As Apocalypse unfortunately doesn't show types of unit it just totally removes all restrictions except warlord. Whereas taking away the points restriction on multiple detachments and being able to add as many detachments as you like of different types would keep track of the legalities of those detachments. :)

We are getting there.

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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#10  Postby jboweruk » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:11 pm

I know mate, must be hard with only a few people and GW dropping stuff faster than a turbo boosting Eldar Jetbike.
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#11  Postby pch90265 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:18 pm

Homer is making great progress...  where he is headed with implementing the core of 7th's changes to FOC is genius, IMHO.
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#12  Postby Homer_S » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:54 am

Some screenshots to whet your whistles.  

Army Selection Showing Validation Errors (Old by FOC errors not yet removed)
0NoUnits.jpg

Units Added
1FreeUnits.jpg

Units Assigned to Detachment (by Drag and Drop)
2NoTitles.jpg

Showing Squad Title and Stats (used for Detachment validation)
3WithStats.jpg

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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#13  Postby Spack » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:13 pm

Ooo, shiny new stuff.
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#14  Postby deano » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:30 pm

So has Lord Of War had a category made for it yet? I am playing with the Ork ruleset and I can move Badrukk out of a flash git unit but there is no Lord of War for me to assign to Ghaz... or the Stompa.
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Re: 7th Edition Edits

#15  Postby Akaiyou » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:12 am

Nicee nicee been wondering if you guys had quit on 7th good to see it's well under way.

Here is my suggestion: FACTIONS! Make the 7th ed update be able to keep track of factions in your army, factions are very important now.

Also remember there's models like Daemon Prince that can potentially belong to 1 of 2 factions and need to be listed properly so a switch faction mechanism should be in place to declare which faction he's a part of.
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